People operate with diverse systems of belief and we can live with this incoherence - Political Theology: Four New Chapters on the Concept of Sovereignty - Page 118 - Paul W. Kahn - 2011 - Preview - More editions In the postmodern world, the...2 months ago
Savitri Era of those who adore, Om Sri Aurobindo and The Mother.
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Friday 13 April 2007
KumarBR Fite Joined: 13 Feb 1999 Posts: 884 Posted: 24 Mar 2007 03:42 pm I found a rather explosive quote from Mother (Mirra Alfassa) on Christianity in general, where she says that Jesus himself was divine, but the religion run in his name is "Asuric" or demoniacal. She also says that catholics are somewhat protected from the "asuric" content by their devotion to the Virgin. She has a rather positive comment on Pope Pius XII. This quote is likely to generate a lot of fireworks. But please, argue passionately if you must, but don't lose the warmth in the heat of the moment. Quote:Mirra Alfassa, in dialogue with a Frenchman affectionately known to her as "Satprem" or "mon petit" (my little one) spoke of it this way: "One wonders how people in Europe can break through that Christian carapace; it seems extremely solid - it's terrible, really! Oh, indeed it is. Even in America, mon petit, they're in its grip. They're always falling back into their Christianity. It's going to be very hard. I don't know why, but every time I come into contact with a Christian thought, it fills me with anger. Oh, I understand! Because it's true, you know, that an Asura is behind it all - not Christ! Sri Aurobindo considered Christ an Avatar (a minor form of Avatar). One emanation of the Divine's aspect of Love, he always said. But what people have made of him! ...Besides, the religion was founded two hundred years after his death. And it's nothing but a political construction, a tool for domination, built with the Lord of Falsehood in the background, who, in his usual fashion, took something true and twisted it. It's a real hodgepodge, that religion - the number of sects! The only common ground is the divinity of Christ, and it became asuric when he was made out to be unique: there has been but ONE incarnation, Christ. That's just where it all went wrong. We'll see. It is resisting, resisting everywhere. It's even more resistant than materialism. Of course! Nothing is more terrible than idealists (amongst philosophers including materialists), they're the worst. They're worse than the bad people. Oh, if you mean the puritans, the Protestants ... dreadful! They're the worst (amongst christians). Catholicism still retains something of the occult sense, and after all, they have a certain adoration for the Virgin, which keeps them in contact with something that's not asuric. The last Pope, who's dead now [Pius XII], had broadened both his own mind and Church doctrine a lot: he was a devotee of the Virgin. But the Protestants turned back to the Father, and so their worship became exactly the worship of a one and only, personal God, an asuric God. And they have fabricated and distorted everything: like asceticism, for instance, and all that sort of thing - everything they touched was twisted and spoiled."